Monday, May 01, 2006

Elena or Elena?

Here is a doozy for ya! Hold on to your hats, because Starbucks Mom has a theory and its right up there with the best of Alias. PS. Starbucks Mom is my very best friend and the devilish woman who turned me on to Alias in the first place. She is my #1 theorist and my go-to girl when I got outrageous ideas and questions. Let’s all give Starbucks Mom a big Let’s Talk welcome- this is her theory d├ębut.

I have a thought. I've been reading all the posts from over the weekend. GS made a comment about Elena planning for "every possible situation" during her collaboration with Irina. She knows Irina, and she's too smart to let herself get caught. GS thought that she could have cloned herself, and I certainly agree. I mean, she has the technology. BUT....what if she reversed cloned herself. Instead of taking someone else and making an Elena clone, she took someone else's DNA and gave herself the ultimate disguise. I mean, why would she want to clone herself just to be caught again? Wouldn't it be more to her advantage to assume the appearance of someone unknown to all those she is hiding from? You'll notice we haven't seen her in awhile-because we assumed Irina had killed her- shot her in the forehead. If what I'm getting at could be true, she could be anywhere. She could be Grace. She could be Rachel. She could be Peyton. Or she could be someone else we haven't seen yet. Or I could be totally out there.

I don’t think you are totally out there SM. I think it’s a very viable theory. I always thought it was too easy-getting rid of Elena. She was only around for 3-4 episodes, two of which we believed she was Nadia’s caregiver. The woman ran the powerhouse of all Alias foes- the Covenant. What do you think? You think Starbucks Mom has had too many mochas?

22 comments:

Tammy said...

Wowie Zowie!! I LOVE this theory! I have no idea if it will play out, but wow - the possibilities have given me goosebumps! These Derevkos - anything is possible! Pshewie! Thanks for thinking this up and giving me ONE more thing to consider!!

Tammy
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jenn256 said...

so you're saying that instead of doubling herself she doubled someone else and became them? Hmmmm- this could be possible since Elena said she had contengencies for all possiblities, and I'm sure one of those was getting killed or captured. She had to know that the APO gang was going to at least try to come after her. So is there a character who came on the scene around the time Elena left that it could be? When was she shot? At the end of S4- so it could be any of the new characters from S5, or even any old characters she came into contact with last season.

srg-alias said...

yeah that's the scary part, it really could be anyone. I've been very resistant to the idea that Grace could be the mole because it just seems too obvious since he's the new guy, but now I'm not so sure. Someone mentioned that they thought Grace was in the car w/ Anna when she kidnapped Will. I just rewatched the eppy (thanks to ABC free streaming) and specifically watched for the moment where they showed the person's reflection in the side mirror. It's very quick, but it does look like Grace...

birdietwoshoes said...

Hmmm... Very interesting. Perhaps she could be The Cardinal then?? In disguise as... I don't know. But yeah, what a great theory.

However, I was gone over the weekend and of course, was going over Alias scenarios in my head while riding in the car. I pondered the idea of Bill Vaughn being the Cardinal. My reasoning is, it can't be a new character. With only a few episodes left, I think it would be ridiculous to introduce a brand new character. It has to be someone we know or know OF (Even though we've never seen Bill Vaughn, we know of him.) I don't think it's Irina, 'cause Grace could have gotten a message to her without going to that guy in witness protection. I think someone or maybe a couple people posted comments with the same idea on the Rambaldi article.

Also, I agree with whoever posted the comment "Irina is an enigma." Yeah she is. I think she will pay the ultimate sacrifice for Syd in the end.

Sorry for the randon all-over-the-place comments... :) Just had to catch up from what I missed over the weekend!

Kiki said...

No problem Birdie- rambling always brings out the best ideas!

sklaft said...

I just wanted to say hello. I have been watching Alias since it's Pilot in 2001.

There are a lot of great discussions on the blog. I shall return as often as I can.

Kiki said...

Robby- I know it's you! Nice try coming in here with an Alias! You've been caught my friend! Haha, very clever though.

Robetron said...

LOL... I still only wanted to say Hi

:D

Anonymous said...

What if Elena doubled herself before the clone Elena was shot last season? She then doubles someone else and hides her identity from everyone who would recognize her. Could Kelly Peyton be Elena?

Reading everyone's great theories, I had to add my 2¢ worth.

Lisa said...

wow, I like this idea. I want to go back and rewatch season 4...I don't remember enough about Elena! on that note (kind of) does anyone know of any other "easter eggs" on the DVD sets? I've seen the S4 one, but are there others? I'd love to know since soon....sniff...that's all we'll be watching. thanks in advance if you can tell me where they are!

srg-alias said...

I like the idea of Kelly as Elena, she's certainly cruel enough. does anyone know how long Rachel had been working for Gordan Dean before she found out the truth? It was obvious she and Kelly were "friends", I'm just curious how long she had known Kelly... although Kelly does seem to be intimidated by Irena and Elena definitely wasn't.

Anonymous said...

wha if Elena is diguised/cloned as francie?...its been done before

birdietwoshoes said...

Another off topic comment from me, but I just watched the preview for "30 Seconds" on aol.com/alias and I laughed SO hard? Have any of you seen it? Syd's accent had me in stitches. Love it.

What are we going to do without Alias, my friends? This is so sad... :(

Kiki said...

I think Rachel was working for Dean for 2 years before she figured out the truth. Also, I love the idea of Kelly as Elena. They are very similar and I love that Kelly has kinda of been waiting to pounce it seems.

Eliza said...

Thank you SRG! I thought no one read my comment about Grace in the side-view mirror. It is hard to tell. It almost looked like Ethan Hawke, or it could be that crazy doctor....but it could be plausible for it to be Grace because...after all....he broke into Witness Protection archives...he would know where to find Will!!!

Eliza said...

Yeah, I think it'd be lame to bust in Bill Vaughn I mean, he doesn't even really matter that much to the story line right? besides his protection of nadia, right?

birdietwoshoes said...

I'm back. I'm just in my kitchen, making dinner and watching "The Horizon" episode free off the ABC site. (You should go watch it GS, if you haven't lately... I'm sure there are things I didn't catch) But one thing I did catch is this: APO learned of Peyton breaking in and stealing Vaughn's files and Jack tasked a team, sending Syd to meet with Renee. Now, it was while she was meeting with Renee that Syd got abducted by P5. Here's my observation-- how would P5 have known where Syd was going to be unless someone on the inside of APO tipped them off?? Any thoughts? (I'm REALLY thinking it's Grace now.)

Kiki said...

Birdie- I have mentioned this before- Jack sent Sydney into that situation. He tasked her to meet with Renee and then BAM- Syd got abducted. So either it was Jack, working with Irina, or it was Renee. Hmm.

lhaaheim said...

I actually think Bill Vaughn has a lot to do with the story. He was originally involved with P5 or one of their splinter organizations and had to change his name and his family’s to keep them safe. He’s the reason Vaughn started investigating P5, which lead him to request to be Sydney’s handler and then now Vaughn is in hiding from P5 and now P5 has doubled Sydney. It all started with Bill Vaughn! Well Irina has been involved all along too it seems like but she seemed to want to keep all of this away from Syd where as Vaughn brought everything about P5 and his dad out.

Robetron said...

I just watched the free episode from ABC, and I noticed another little call back that I missed the first time 'round. Having nowhere else to put it, I thought I'd site it here.

Finaly scenes, Will and Syd are walking in a garden, and Syd is apologizing profusely. She claims that everyone she loves gets hurt of killed, like its a curse. This, i believe is an intentional reminder of what Anna said to Nadia just before branding her. Being intentional, I do not consider it a call back. Will's little speech that followed, however, is a call back all the way back to season one when Sydney snaped at him as he was trying to convince her that Credit Dauphine was too controlling and that she should quit. Out of frustration, Sydney growled, "If you even knew what I go through, you might even thank me..." Well, its four years later, he does know what she goes through, adnthere he was, thanking her on behalf of the entire world.

I just love it when a seeminglyminor storyline comes full circle and resolves in such an interesting way. Don't you?

-R.

Kiki said...

I do Robby, since tie in. I loved both of those scenes with Will- even if the latter was ather cheese.

srg-alias said...

yeah that's a great callback Robby, I didn't catch that before. I also think the link between Syd saying she's a curse and Anna telling Nadia the same is definitely intentional, we haven't seen the last of the supposed "curse".

birdie - yes I watched the AOL preview, hilarious!! :)

freelancer - I'm glad you originally pointed out the Grace look-a-like in the mirror because I totally missed it the first time around. Good point too about him knowing where to find Will...