Tuesday, June 06, 2006

Uncle's Question of the Day

Here is another great topic offered up by Uncle 111. Thanks!!

How many times did Irina try to get Syd out of the spy business, and why?The two that are easiest to spot were:1- Saving Syd's baby and later telling her that she would have to choose between being a spy and being a mom, because you can't do both.2- When she was in CIA custody and she told Syd that if she didn't leave CIA so she could still see her that she would refuse to see Syd.What other things that happened can you think of that fit as Irina trying to get Syd to retire and get her out of the way?

PS. I can't even look at season 2 pics without thinking, "DAMN! It so was good!"

11 comments:

lhaaheim said...

Please see my post in the previous topic :-)

uncle111 said...

I'll copy it over here:

lhaaheim said...
Uncle-

Helping Sloane takedown SD6 and the Alliance, freeing Syd from her double agent life; (Irina should have told Sloane not to contact her afterwards though).

Suggesting that Vaughn tell Syd the truth about his past and P5. She could have had a hand in "killing" him.

She brought up Syd's happiness several times and how it wasn't a priority and that it should be. For example the argument she had with Jack about Syd on the family nuke vacation. Talking to Syd about her obvious love for Vaughn etc.

Her efforts to help the CIA take out people like P5, The Alliance and Elena, so Syd could go and have a happy life. However we know now that was all in an effort to further her own agenda, even though they did help Syd indirectly.

Despite her continued efforts I wonder if Irina really thought she would be successful in getting Syd out of the CIA. At the beginning of season 4 Syd wanted to join a new black ops group and work for her country, and she didn't have personal motivation like Sloane or her two missing years to compel her. And even at the end Syd is not out of the spy business and will most likely be involved for the rest of her life. Syd is an agent and always will be. Why did Irina not see that? Or was that just wishful thinking on Irina’s part because she knew at some level that things would come down to a struggle between them.

3:06 PM

slingshot said...

um ok your right.... i say DAMN too, i mean everything about it... even her eye make-up!! remember picking the good eye make-up...

i need to start all over again i think...

its about time!

Kiki said...

Oooh, good team work!!

Kiki said...

Okay Sling- your obsessed!! Mom and Dad are going to take your lap top away if you don't stop watching Alias until 3am.

lhaaheim said...

Thanks Uncle :-)

uncle111 said...

How about when Noah Hicks tried to get Syd to go away with him? When she didn't, he went staight to Sydney's only lead to her mother and killed him. Was Noah working for Irina and trying to get Syd out of the spy business so as to be out of her way?

Kiki said...

Nice UNcle!!!

Anonymous said...

Or...how about when Irina tried to send Sydney to Spy Heaven in the finale? Sometimes, when subtle career advice from Mom falls on deaf ears, a firmer approach may be called for. Just kidding, of course. And for what it's worth, I'm still bitter about Irina morphing into an evil, would-be Sydney-killer in the finale. To this very day, I soooooo don't accept that "interpretation" of Irina. The Irina I know would have been clever enough to expect Sydney to show up and would have had a kinder, gentler plan for her, something a little more Mommy-like than cutting of the blood flow to her brain. My Mommy would never do that.

lhaaheim said...

Good connection Uncle!!!

"...a firmer approach may be called for." LOL! :-D

True Anonymous Irina was not very mommy like in the finale. Then again she wasn't a real mom, and not deserving of a mommy or momma title. Irina’s about 99% evil Rambaldi follower power hungry war lord wannabe. That leaves one percent for wife and mother and she used all of it up prior to her “death” and during season two to four.

lhaaheim said...

By the way that's a great picture GS! I just watched that scene a few days ago on a repeat episode and it made me so sad. Syd really grew to care for her mother and Irina was really trying to do right by Syd but she was never able to tell her the truth. Maybe that's why Irina always said it would take time, Irina was hoping she would never have to tell Syd the truth, her truth, because she knew things would not end well.

I watched the end of the finale again (I haven't been able to watch the whole episode again, it's too painful) and it makes me so sad and so angry that even after everything Syd still loved her mother and was deeply hurt by her death. Irina never deserved Syd’s love but she got it anyway and just wasted it.

I know some people are mad and confused about Irina being evil in the end but it would have never been fair for her to remain alive and for Jack to die. Plus even if Irina died sacrificing herself for Syd that would have made her death and the death of Jack way too painful.