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MOWE has lots of pr...I also agree with that review. MOWE has lots of promise, and I hope they find a way to cash in on the potential Alias legacy that just hangs out there waiting for someone to grab it.uncle111https://www.blogger.com/profile/06648380991715575787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-17723118841657419382008-10-30T07:49:00.000-07:002008-10-30T07:49:00.000-07:00Where do you think they get their ideas? :)Where do you think they get their ideas? :)Bonkers for Bristowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16384627352473423435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-91345807969048342942008-10-29T19:37:00.000-07:002008-10-29T19:37:00.000-07:00Don't you love it when professional critics say th...Don't you love it when professional critics say the same things that we amateurs say for free here on LTA?<BR/><BR/>Seems like they should pay us something, right?SKlafthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319049127450549422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-30203846389443734702008-10-29T07:16:00.000-07:002008-10-29T07:16:00.000-07:00"The series, which is from executive producers Joh..."The series, which is from executive producers John Eisendrath (Alias) and Jason Smilovic (Bionic Woman)..."<BR/><BR/>I believe this quote from the review explains it all. In the struggle between John and Jason, I really hope John wins.Bonkers for Bristowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16384627352473423435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-25955273150921191232008-10-28T22:17:00.000-07:002008-10-28T22:17:00.000-07:00I think this review is a pretty fair take on MOWE ...I think this <A HREF="http://www.buddytv.com/articles/my-own-worst-enemy/my-own-worst-enemy-review-23553.aspx" REL="nofollow">review</A> is a pretty fair take on MOWE thus far. The last paragraph of the review deserves a second reading, because it really is the bottom line with this show.<BR/><BR/>As Robetron says, MOWE is plump with potential, but doesn't yet seem to know how best to exploit it. I'm hoping someone figures it out. <BR/><BR/>The Tom/Raymond character adds zero to the show as far as I'm concerned. I want him gone and replaced with a spy-chick, and, unlike Tom/Raymond, it would be perfectly acceptable to me if she had a personality.<BR/><BR/>Like Robetron, I'm hoping that Henward will morph into someone I can actually root for (i.e. Sydney B.) Neither character fits that bill so far. I would like to see Henry man up and embrace his new reality with some dignity and I wouldn't object to seeing some quality in Edward that makes me think he's worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as the Bristows, Bournes, Bonds of the spy world. Right now he comes across as being the punk spy who thinks his shit doesn't stink.<BR/><BR/>And, yes, the computer displays are wayyyyyyy cool, no doubt about it.<BR/><BR/>"Heroes" is really testing my resolve this season. The words "convoluted mess" come to mind. I don't know how much more angry Peter I can handle. Season 1 was really a smoothie with much to like, but this is "Extreme Makeover Heroes", and I'm not sure I approve. I just find a lot of the first season's charm is proving itself difficult to recapture. And, maybe it's just me, but I think they're just constantly introducing way too many new faces. "Heroes" needs to be careful.Page48https://www.blogger.com/profile/09728079057077761364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-43942130633230783442008-10-28T21:18:00.000-07:002008-10-28T21:18:00.000-07:00To be honest, I do not want Alias-imitation. They ...To be honest, I do not want Alias-imitation. They cannot measure up to that standard, and anything falling short would be a sorry replacement.<BR/><BR/>I am a little disappointed with MOWE. We still don't know whether to like Henry or Edward. The one seems like a namby-pamby, while the other seems like a low-life. <BR/><BR/>I agree that Tom is lifeless. Maybe its just because I keep waiting for him to make a stupid-guy sitcom remark like the actor used to do on that comedy show (can't remember the name).<BR/><BR/>I will keep coming back to MOWE, though, because it is so filled full of potential. There are flashes of brilliance; the acting is well done, the visuals are great, and the effects are way-cool, junior (love the technology of a holographic, interactive display!)<BR/><BR/>One thing I do like is that it comes right on the heels of Heroes. Two good shows in a row make it easier to keep up from week to week.<BR/><BR/>They are messing with a format that was working in season one on Heroes, but there is enough action and story progression in each episode to keep me interested. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what the story-line is at this point. I don't mean to sound arrogant, but I believe I ought to be able to summarize a plot after a few episodes, and if I can't, the show appears to be floundering. <BR/><BR/>Lost was like that in season 3, but it came together late, and I found it satisfying because I endured through it. I think this season of Heroes will be the same. At least, I hope so.<BR/><BR/>-R.SKlafthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319049127450549422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-6148168307820246492008-10-28T19:10:00.000-07:002008-10-28T19:10:00.000-07:00Very Cool!Maybe Alias had a BIG influence on them ...Very Cool!<BR/>Maybe Alias had a BIG influence on them too and they're thinking Alias-think. If so, we should have some good Alias storylines ahead of us. <BR/>Look for Janus to be an SD-6(?)uncle111https://www.blogger.com/profile/06648380991715575787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-41516531122182123592008-10-28T18:56:00.000-07:002008-10-28T18:56:00.000-07:00Earlier, Uncle111 said this: "I already have a gre...Earlier, Uncle111 said this: "I already have a great idea for a season cliffhanger: We find out that his wife is really an agent like him with the same organization."<BR/><BR/>Official description of 1.5 ("Night Train to Moscow") says this: "Henry starts to suspect that his wife, Angie is a spy planted by Janus"<BR/><BR/>As for me, I think we'll soon find out that little Ruthy is really Allison Doren.Page48https://www.blogger.com/profile/09728079057077761364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-16301299582955970812008-10-28T07:59:00.000-07:002008-10-28T07:59:00.000-07:00I agree about Tom/Raymond. he had a lot more going...I agree about Tom/Raymond. he had a lot more going for him in the pilot. It's almost as if the writers were told to dial it down on his character. Plus, I don't think Tom/Raymond was a spilt personality in the pilot. Did I not get that at first or did they change it after the pilot?<BR/><BR/>I was pretty excited when FBI dude was shot and the chick came out of the fog. I was SURE it was his wife. So the shrink was a small downer for me. It adds a new element which we need but I so wanted it to be his wife. :(<BR/><BR/>I really have to give credit to the writers on the bad guys. Although we keep getting new ones, I like them. Like I said before, i liked Uzi and I also liked the guy yesterday. They aren't your typical 24 style baddies, these guys have redeeming qualities to them. And yesterday's guy didn't die. Maybe he'll be back.<BR/><BR/>And I agree on Henry/Edward having to work together more. I would have preffered that Edwards had not killed the doc as that would have added some complication to the plot but I like how Edward showed a little softening by buying the fridge. The communication between them is interesting and they could do something with that.<BR/><BR/>The only Alias references I saw last night was the slow-mo running into focus at the beginning and the talking with the shrink. Sort of made me think of Barnet. Oh, and the warm filters over the camera in Mexico. That had an Alias flavour to it. Any that I may have missed?Bonkers for Bristowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16384627352473423435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-16831986975293484462008-10-27T20:53:00.000-07:002008-10-27T20:53:00.000-07:00IMO, 2 things have to happen for MOWE to enjoy a l...IMO, 2 things have to happen for MOWE to enjoy a lengthy run. <BR/><BR/>1) Henry and Edward have to do some male bonding. They have to develop some empathy for each other and begin working as a team, rather than opposing forces, otherwise we'll never get past the part where Henry wakes up in the middle of a delicate mission and has to muddle through somehow. That gets old quickly. Get the two of them working together so they complement each other and we start to make headway.<BR/><BR/>2) The baddie of the week has to give way to a storyline complete with recurring foes. "Get Smart" had CONTROL vs. KAOS, "Alias" had the CIA vs. SD-6 and others. So far, we have Janus vs. no one in particular.<BR/><BR/>Progress is being made on the first issue. The two Slater characters are showing a slowly increasing tolerance for and acceptance of each other. <BR/><BR/>On the second issue, more work is needed, but at least there was, in this week's mission, a reference to Henry's disposal of Uzi in the first episode. No reference however, to any shared interest between Uzi and tonite's bad dude. And, no mention of Fainburg's Marbles. I thought the marbles were supposed to be important to this show, but who knows?<BR/><BR/>Now, in true "Alias" fashion, the final scene with the shrink gives me hope that there may actually be more to MOWE than a short-circuit in Henward's brain. The twist with the shrink is the kind of thing I tune in to spy shows for...nothing and no-one is what they seem to be. Bring THAT on!<BR/><BR/>For the record, I don't like Tom or Raymond. They are bland/lifeless to the extreme and neither are the least bit sympathetic. Raymond needs to be shot in the head in the next episode. <BR/><BR/>Now, just as one would expect, after 3 episodes, we get a two week hiatus. Yawn!Page48https://www.blogger.com/profile/09728079057077761364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-26407064835586220822008-10-23T17:52:00.000-07:002008-10-23T17:52:00.000-07:00Losing a post sucks. If I feel a long one coming o...Losing a post sucks. If I feel a long one coming on, I often switch to Word to do the actual typing, and then copy and paste into the comment box.Page48https://www.blogger.com/profile/09728079057077761364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-77335106087358339102008-10-23T09:16:00.000-07:002008-10-23T09:16:00.000-07:00Anyone know how to post? I just wrote a whole pst ...Anyone know how to post? I just wrote a whole pst and couldn't sign in. Then it got erased. Grrrr.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-1783398443251197162008-10-22T18:45:00.000-07:002008-10-22T18:45:00.000-07:00When I subscribe to a topic I get emails when some...When I subscribe to a topic I get emails when someone posts to it. This new look is the way it always looked when I clicked the link in the email to post a reply. My guess is a setting here changed to make all posts look this way.uncle111https://www.blogger.com/profile/06648380991715575787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-65026973874989542122008-10-22T18:13:00.000-07:002008-10-22T18:13:00.000-07:00I dunno, Page. It wasn't like this earlier today. ...I dunno, Page. It wasn't like this earlier today. I don't dislike it, but I am a little adverse to any change. *shrug*SKlafthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319049127450549422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-60274271769648963782008-10-22T17:37:00.000-07:002008-10-22T17:37:00.000-07:00I like "The Unit", but I've never been a regular v...I like "The Unit", but I've never been a regular viewer. I find the wives/girlfriends portion of the show a little underwhelming, but the operatives at work is well done. <BR/><BR/>Interesting to note that long-ago-Terminator, Robert Patrick was joined a few seasons back by a soon-to-be-Terminator, Summer Glau (of "Firefly" fame). <BR/><BR/>And, of course, Jen's first husband, Scott Foley (soon to star with Victor Garber in "The Last Templar")is a regular as well. It's such a small world, no?<BR/><BR/>What's this funky new way of posting comments?Page48https://www.blogger.com/profile/09728079057077761364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-63881506682534988442008-10-22T16:41:00.000-07:002008-10-22T16:41:00.000-07:00Robetron,The head underwater scene is E1 when he&#...Robetron,<BR/>The head underwater scene is E1 when he's in Russia(?) and he has switched back to Edward, which causes him to get caught by the bad guys. They push his head into the toilet(?)to set him up for interrogation.<BR/><BR/>This from Page48:<BR/>"Is it a coincidence that MOWE executive producer John Eisendrath, was a producer and writer of several "Alias" episodes, including "The Box" Parts 1 & 2 (was not The Box full of nasty needles used to make folks undergoing interrogation feel reallllly uncomfortable?)."<BR/><BR/>My brother tells me I would like the Unit. I may get the DVD's and check it out.uncle111https://www.blogger.com/profile/06648380991715575787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-91475748178821252702008-10-22T15:21:00.000-07:002008-10-22T15:21:00.000-07:00I just watched the two episodes of MOWE, and I am ...I just watched the two episodes of MOWE, and I am glad I did. <BR/><BR/>Dollars to donuts the writers were given the whole idea for the show from ALIAS' 1.07 "Color Blind" where Syd rescues the guy who had been implanted with psycho-triggers that made him an assassin, and discovers that it was he who killed Danny. (Remember that? Talk about powerful!) Earlier this year, I started writing a novel based on similar ideas, cross between MOWE and the poor man in that episode. Since this show has come out, I sort-a lost my motivation.<BR/><BR/>At any rate, I liked MOWE more than I expected to, but they have yet to find a rhythm, and a balance between drama and action, tempered by humor. Christian Slater is a master of sarcastic humor, and I think they could use that to broaden the likability factor. <BR/><BR/>I agree with some of you, they should focus in a little more on Edward's adventures, and let Henry be the complicating element, rather than vice-versa. <BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, I accidentally watched the two episodes in reverse order, and it didn't make much sense until I figured that out. I was thinking, "man, there is a lot of exposition going here." What was happening was, they were letting new viewers know what the background story was if they hadn't seen the pilot. I hope they do not do that much more. It slows down the story arc. <BR/><BR/>Speaking of ALIAS call-outs... I know you all think I am obsessed with McKinnas Cole, but the the needles with the poison in little bulbs at the back end came straight from ALIAS 1:12 and 13, "The Box Part I and II." I would not be surprised if they took the exact same props and painted the bulbs pink. Not to mention the lines Edward delivered, explaining what he knew about them was almost a paraphrase of Cole's explanation and experience with them.<BR/><BR/>You all talked about an under-water shot with Henry, and I looked for it, but never saw that. Is it possible that it was cut out of the online version? Watching them in reverse order messed me up, but I do not remember that scene, and one would think I would not miss it if it were there. I guess it is a good excuse to watch it again.<BR/><BR/>Overall, I will be watching to see if MOWE develops passed the ALIAS roots. It's far better than some of the other trash I have seen this passed summer.<BR/><BR/>BTW - Uncle, I'm not sure what to think of this season of The Unit, but I know, deep down, right from my heels on up, that if you watched the first seasons in order, you will like it a great deal. It's not for everyone, but it is far from being a so-so program for those who like shows depicting the human element of the military. I do not presume to know everything about you, but from our posted conversations, I think you might enjoy the realism of The Unit.SKlafthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319049127450549422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-21579928994265650572008-10-21T20:50:00.000-07:002008-10-21T20:50:00.000-07:00Looks to me like they are serializing MOWE. I saw ...Looks to me like they are serializing MOWE. I saw Alias fingerprints all over this one. To paraphrase an Alias episode- It's like Alias (Sloane), but not. You know what I mean? <BR/>This was like the cast of Alias was on vacation and they had another cast subbing in. <BR/>I bet whoever Edward works for turns out to be like SD-6. And as you watch, be expecting to find out that Henry's wife works for them too.uncle111https://www.blogger.com/profile/06648380991715575787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-15081605031922780822008-10-21T20:19:00.000-07:002008-10-21T20:19:00.000-07:00"Serenity" is shiny. Awhile back I read a review t..."Serenity" is shiny. <BR/><BR/>Awhile back I read a review that rated "Serenity" the most eye-pleasing HD movie released to date. I've seen it in 720p on my laptop, but that's as close as I get to HD. Nevertheless, I, like Uncle, think it's a great movie.<BR/><BR/>Back to MOWE for a moment. Sure, we're only 2 episodes in, but already, I'm wishing they would focus on the spy angle and leave the gimmick of dual personalities behind. It's fine to pay tribute to "Alias" by ripping off minor details like Sal's Pizza, but I think a more appropriate tribute would be to try to live up to the good spy/bad spy story told so brilliantly by "Alias" writers.<BR/><BR/>If it isn't obvious that MOWE is focusing too much attention on the gimmick of dueling banjo personalities instead of something more substantial, just check out the title of 1.2, "The Hummingbird", a reference to one of Edward's favourite sexual practices. Note that "Alias" never had an episode called "Girl on Girl" because "Alias" had bigger fish to fry. Again, it seems to come down to TV's current reluctance to concoct a long-term storyline and run with it. <BR/><BR/>I get the fact that Henry is a weenie and Edward a stud, but so what? MOWE will need to fry some of those big "Alias" fish itself, or else, IMO, it will have difficulty sustaining interest for an entire season, let alone five incredible years.Page48https://www.blogger.com/profile/09728079057077761364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-71148760939011489612008-10-21T19:20:00.000-07:002008-10-21T19:20:00.000-07:00I just finished Serenity. Great movie.Need to find...I just finished Serenity. Great movie.<BR/>Need to find time to watch MOWE from this week.uncle111https://www.blogger.com/profile/06648380991715575787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-27925626709361555022008-10-21T19:03:00.000-07:002008-10-21T19:03:00.000-07:00If "Eli Stone" can use Credit Dauphine, ...If "Eli Stone" can use Credit Dauphine, then MOWE might just as well have come out with Joey's Pizza. Absolutely, this had "Alias" influence written all over it. <BR/><BR/>The scene in the briefing room, in particular, was extremely clone-ish, and how about the series of injections used during the interrogation??? Is it a coincidence that MOWE executive producer John Eisendrath, was a producer and writer of several "Alias" episodes, including "The Box" Parts 1 & 2 (was not The Box full of nasty needles used to make folks undergoing interrogation feel reallllly uncomfortable?).Page48https://www.blogger.com/profile/09728079057077761364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-79410696269088257212008-10-21T15:35:00.000-07:002008-10-21T15:35:00.000-07:00I thought the exact same thing. Boyscout, Sal's p...I thought the exact same thing. Boyscout, Sal's pizza-it is too similar not to be on purpose. I am really liking this show. I have one question-why do they need Edward to have a regular life? Why can't he just be a spy? Also is Tom aware of Raymond? I was thinking he was last week but now I don't remember.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309641.post-84271886807119131342008-10-21T08:19:00.000-07:002008-10-21T08:19:00.000-07:00Anyone watch MOWE yesterday? I swear NBC is trying...Anyone watch MOWE yesterday? I swear NBC is trying to lure in the old Alias fans. Sal's Pizza? Boyscout? Plane leaves in an hour? Tech guy in the briefing room with a new gadget? The shout outs were coming fast and furious yesterday. I have to admit the hour started a little slow but it got better as soon as they started on their mission. There's enough continuity to be a quasi-serial show which is promising and Henry was less annoying and Edward was less obnoxious. So far so good.Bonkers for Bristowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16384627352473423435noreply@blogger.com