Friday, May 12, 2006

Project Christmas- Offense or Defense by Jenn256

In thinking about where our show is and where it is headed, I have been wondering about the key players in the show and if there is something we have been missing. I then stumbled upon a thought that I think needs further exploration.

Jack Bristow is a very intelligent man. Top notch CIA operative, former double agent and he always seems to know what is going on everywhere with everyone. So how is it that after the betrayal by his wife, "Laura Bristow," and then working side by side with Arvin Sloane over the years, Jack doesn't have any more knowledge about Rambaldi than anyone else? Do we not think that Jack would have wanted to know what was so important about this 15th Century Prophet that took his wife and family away from him? In his discovery could Jack have come across the information that perhaps his daughter would be "The Chosen One?" Where I am going with this is....could Jack have always known about Sydney's place in this prophecy and therefore, decided she needed Project Christmas training to protect herself from people like her mother and Sloane, who would stop at nothing to fulfill this man's endgame? Jack has always acted very aloof about Rambaldi, but perhaps along with Sloane using the CIA for Rambaldi resources, Jack has also been doing the same thing to gain information to keep his daughter alive.

I understand that Jack, along with Vaughn, was the person to take Sydney to Mt.Subasio to prove the theory wrong. But if he is concerned with his daughters life, he would not stop protecting her just because she climbed to the top of a mountain. I am not sure that Jack believes in this Rmabaldi prophecy, but I think the concern for Sydney's life after seeing what his wife and best friend went through for this prophect concerns him more.

Could Jack have been one of the people who knew about Prophet 5 years ago, or could he have known Bill Vaughn and heard about what Prophet 5 had planned for his daughter so many years later. We have been led to believe all of these years that Jack programmed Sydney with Project Christmas training so she would go into the CIA and be an agent to do away with people like her mother, but maybe we have been looking at it wrong. Maybe Jack wanted her to be ready for these radical Rambaldi followers who wanted her to complete whatever it is they think they need her for or from her.

So what do you all think? We know there has always been more to Jack than we knew. Am I close, or way off?

22 comments:

Kiki said...

Awesome post Jenn!! And very good question. We know Jack told Syd he used Project Xmas on her to protect her from brainwashing and such, which is why she was able to sustain the Covenant and their efforts to make her Julia Thorne. Hmmm. I Think Jack knows more than we think.

carley said...

Gosh, no wonder poor Jack always looks so stoic and somber. If he's been fighting for that many years and we just get the glimpse of, what, 7 to 10 years of Syd's life and we're tired (though we love it) no wonder poor Jacky-poo needs some lovin'!!!!

C'mere Jacky-poo. Just lay down and we'll tuck you in bed and read you a happy story. K? Don't worry it's going to be alright you big, noble, studiliciousness that we just wanna eat right up.

Hey, Ihaaheim, (I think that is how you spell it) I swear I've seen you post on the ABC board. Have you? I am a regular there. I mainly post on the SHH thread. I'm there as Alias_Lady2 aka Tushlady aka Tushie aka Tushter-meister, meister-tushster ;)

carley said...

Okay, on a more serious note. I think both "reasons" that you stated here have a valid point to them. I mean, yes, I do believe Jack has been looking out for Sydney since her birth and especially since finding out that "Laura" wasn't what he thought she'd be. Much like how Sydney is going all out to protect Isabelle now (good mommy, Lady approves ;) ). Ultimately I think that Jack wants for Syd what any decent parent wants for their child, which is that he/she be a happy and competent person in this life. However due to Jack's line of profession and possibly after discovery of how they planned to use Syd, Jack was forced to have to do some training for Syd to protect her from these evil people.

Naturally, not being totally aware of everything going on, Syd has had times of resentment toward Jack. Like when (and forgive me that I can't remember all details that far back) she discovered her secret file that Jack knew about and it hurt her so bad. And how many times have we heard Syd say that she wished she had a "normal" life (ha, we all do Syd ;) ), etc. Jack got the brunt of it though his intentions are good - whatever they are.

It'll be interesting to watch and see what pans out. C'mon! Wednesday! :D

katybird27 said...

I love it Jenn!!! You put into words what I've been thinking about Jack but couldn't put my finger on. And you make Project Christmas relevant to the plot. Awesome!!

lhaaheim said...

I have always thought that Jack was more involved with Rambaldi then he let on. Regardless of whether he knew Syd would be involved in this, it's always best to know your enemy well. This includes their plans and beliefs. It gives Jack a great advantage to know Sloane and Irina as well as he can to not only protect Syd but himself as well.

Carley- That is how you spell it and yes I have been on the ABC Boards! :-) But I don't get over there too often anymore; it’s hard to keep up with everything here as well as over there. It's nice to know someone recognized me though! :-)

jenn256 said...

glad you all don't think I'm crazy. Like Lhaaheim said, it's oneof those keep your enemies closer type thing. I just can't imagine that Jack wouldn't have had some curiosity over the person.thing that wrecked his life, and the lives of so many people around him.

I know Jack started PC before he and Irina ever married, hence the reason she was sent by the KGB to get the intel on it, and I'm not sure he ever really intended to use it on his own daughter. But I do think the situation forced him to this, and I'm not sure about how much Rambaldi info Jack has, but we all know Jack always knows more than he lets on.

Amy said...

I'm a first time blogger, long time reader of Lets Talk, and as i was rewatching I See Dead People, I noticed some things...
(Sorry in advance this doesnt really go with the article, but the other threads seems dead..)
One, The 14th century work by Joseph Penara was located in Geneva by an owner of used books. When I heard that my mind imediately went to Jack when he used to buy Irina aka Laura books. I dont know if thats anything solid, but it struck me as familiar.
Second, when Vaughn read Renee's name off the chip, he said something to the effect of Renee Guson, but I thought her name was Renee Rienne? Unless the writers forgot her last name, but I dont think so. Didn't Dr. Disantis say 'she goes by the name renee rienne'. I was just wondering what you all thought.
Thanks for putting up with my total sidetrack of this post!

Amy said...

Oh, sorry, it was Evil Syd that read it, not Vaughn.

uncle111 said...

A year ago when we were trying to figure out what Vaughn meant when he said it depended on who you talked to as to whether he was a good guy or a bad guy and that his name wasn't Michael Vaughn, I advanced the theory that Jack stayed close to Sloane because he might be the head of a group that were either true Rambaldi followers trying to thwart false ones, that he was the head of an anti-Rambaldi group, or that he was staying close to Sloane because of something he saw in Rambaldi papers Sloane showed him that indicated Syd would be in danger from Rambalians, and he put her through Project Chistmas to protect her from them. (How's that for a ginormous run on sentence?!)
Sloane must have known something was up- that's why he recruited Syd out from under Jack and against his wishes. He was trying to check a move he believed Jack was going to make.
Jenn's article points up the things that give rise to these speculations.

uncle111 said...

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD FIT IN THE SPOILER CATEGORY OR NOT, BUT JUST IN CASE.....DON'T READ THIS IF YOU DON'T LIKE SPECULATION ABOUT UPCOMONG EPISODES BASED ON PUBLICITY STILLS.

















Has anyone looked at the stills from next weeks episode? Look at the writing on the wall that Syd is looking at. Does that look like Rambaldi's writing?

carley said...

Won't it be interesting to see a big reveal on Jack! I'm half afraid now that he might be a mole but I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that he's the good guy that he appears to be.

Ihaaheim - :D

lhaaheim said...

amy- Welcome! I thought the same thing when Peyton went to get that book. It totally took me back to the books Jack would buy for Irina.

uncle- Rambalians, great new word! :-)

Carley- I’m sure Jack is hiding something, like usual, and it may even upset Syd but his intentions are always good. Jack will be good in the end and what really worries me is that Jack will die protecting Syd or Isabelle.

Okay this is off topic but there is one thing I want more than anything from Alias (expect for a happy ending for Syd, Vaughn and Izzy) I want a great father son moment between Jack and Vaughn. They should hug! :-)

Carley said...

Oh yeah, Ihaaheim, TOTALLY!!! I have a feeling that when Jack comes to pick up Vaughn there will be such a moment. I hope Jack doesn't die!!!! (sadness)...

uncle111 said...

Amy, Renee's real last name was different than what she was known as until we saw the chip. Her father had changed her name as Vaughn's did his. Her real name was the one on the chip.

Eliza said...

hey this is off-topic, but when is Sydney referred to as the Chosen One, is it in an actualy manuscript or was Irina the only one who said that?
Did Rambaldi specifically say she was the Chosen One, or is it assumed knowledge because 'she is the woman here depicted'? Sorry, I am sure we have been through this before....

lhaaheim said...

That is a great question freelancer! I can't remember and I know people keep brining it up but we can't seem to figure out an answer. Does anyone know for sure? I think it's a combination of what page 47 says and what Irina and the other Rambaldi followers have said. I don't think the prophecy out rightly says the person depicted is the chosen one, it maybe just be what Rambaldi believers started to call that person. Like how the President of the United States is called the leader of the free world, even though that is not the technical or correct title.

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